(FT Lori Hayes)

Philadelphia Parks and Recreation‘s Lori Hayes, general naturalist about town, joins us to talk about what hooks kids into nature and how cities might have more to offer them than you might think, all while we listen to an interview with the Philadelphia Water Department‘s Joe Perillo, the man who defends our helpless shad from fearsome invasive catfish and otherwise keeps our rivers in shape for our fine finned friends.

Check out these Grid articles referenced in the podcast about carp and the Fairmount Dam Fishway.

And our synanthropic organism is the carp!

Jumping Carp by Christian Hunold

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(FT Christian Hunold)

Which is the better gateway drug to nature, squirrels or hawks? Christian Hunold, wildlife photographer and Associate Professor of Political Science at Drexel University joins us to talk about red tailed hawks and ecological citizenship as we listen to an interview with Steve Sullivan, Senior Curator of Urban Ecology [for real – how awesome is that job title?] and director of Project Squirrel at the Chicago Academy of Sciences’ Peggy Notebaert Nature Museum.

And since Christian sort of dared us into it, here’s a squirrel stew recipe.

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